2009 GTHL AA West

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Guest wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 10:18 pm
Guest wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 10:00 pm Let’s be real, at U16, the coach has to sign off on the roster before the game, no excuses. If someone’s missing from that sheet, they knew. Doing it once is bad enough, but 14 times? Come on. Either the coach and manager were in on it, or they were completely clueless, and neither is a good look. Parents can feel bad for the kids all they want, but acting like this was some kind of accident is just ridiculous. Someone’s lying, someone’s covering up, and it’s disgraceful.
Easy now. Not everything is a conspiracy. Mistakes were made and idiots were involved. No cover ups, no conspiracy.



I never said it was a conspiracy, but let’s not pretend this was just some innocent mistake either. False info was used…why? These aren’t clueless people, they knew exactly who was supposed to be on that roster. And isn’t the trainer at large a medical doctor? That makes it even weirder. Every other team manages to be transparent with their game sheets, so what was different here?
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Guest wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 2:48 pm
The boys deserve the wins they won gthl is forgetting what hockey is all about and making it political.
For what reason should MR not have to follow the rules? There's nothing "political" about it, they are receiving the penalty in black and white.
Guest wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 3:20 pm
Maybe the GTHL's Agilex (gamesheet system) trainer and auditor should come on here and explain the way the system is meant to work for teams and organizations who need and have more than one registered trainer for their team.

What's that? The GTHL doesn't have a trainer or auditor?

But then how do volunteers get properly trained to manage this highly critical task and ensure that the GTHLs rules are being followed closely? They don't? Huh.

So the GTHL who have all of the responsibility don't actually teach people about these things, but hold them 100% accountable for any errors or issues? Huh.

Well, since everyone else is doing this correctly without training or support, why don't we do a league-wide audit of everyone's registrations and officials credentials, and then cancel the season of any team that has an anomaly?

Look for a petition for that soon.
I'm sure that will get overwhelming support, right?
Because everyone is so careful and compliant with the rules.
It's not that hard. You name the staff on the bench for a game on the game sheet. It's been that way 100 years frankly. It's digital now, crickey.

Ya, do that association wide audit, do it. Not gonna be that hard, it's not hard to jump through the hoops. It sucks ass but you get it done.
Guest wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 5:10 pm
This is only the 2nd season since the G introduced Trainers at Large. Trainers at large are not rostered to a specific team. Has the GTHL provided UPDATED training to the staff in the G office, to organizations and timekeepers ?

Guest wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 5:44 pm
So how come it was the Rattlers "trainer at large" that was the trainer on the bench every game, and not the actual trainer? Why do you have an actual trainer who is never there? Why didn't you just make the trainer at large the actual trainer since he's the one at all the games on the bench. Seems like a fail on the bench staff.
Someone elses responsibility again. You can lean in to it was was supid as much as you want, but the defence is still "it was stupid".
Guest wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 6:59 pm
I feel so bad for the kids. And the parents who were not involved. To think this has all be caused by a fully qualified trainer not being registered correctly and an idiot manager who couldn't figure out the iPad. Somehow you on here think the mistake is intentional, that doesn't make any sense. Negligent organization and idiot manager, that makes sense. Kids shouldn't pay the price for it.
Ya, it was intentional. It's very obvious. You don't mess up the game sheet 14 times accidentally.
Guest wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 9:23 pm At U16, we are usually not the first game on the ice when we play. That usually means the refs bring the iPad over to the coach to sign off on the roster because it wasn't there when the manager went to pay the fees for the refs (cash only!). The coach MUST sign off on the roster for that game, which includes the players and the staff. Even a moron of the first order would realize that that they are signing a game sheet that doesn't include someone that they intend to have on the bench. There is no version of the truth that doesn't involve the coach and/or manager knowingly sign an incorrect game sheet (14 times). I doubt there is anyone that doesn't feel bad for the kids that have been impacted but seriously MR parents, either ask the right questions or stop with this silly charade.
It's not hard to see.
Guest wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 10:00 pm Let’s be real, at U16, the coach has to sign off on the roster before the game, no excuses. If someone’s missing from that sheet, they knew. Doing it once is bad enough, but 14 times? Come on. Either the coach and manager were in on it, or they were completely clueless, and neither is a good look. Parents can feel bad for the kids all they want, but acting like this was some kind of accident is just ridiculous. Someone’s lying, someone’s covering up, and it’s disgraceful.
Someone tell me why if the staff thought this guy was legit registered, why didn't they put him on the game fourteen frigging times?

Some one man up.
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And yes, MR parents, ask the right questions. Take the blinders off.
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Guest wrote: Mon Feb 17, 2025 4:37 pm Every single team in the G from U10 to U18 from A to AAA followed the rules. All 465 teams. 99.78% played by the book. You are the 1 team that cheated. F**k you rattlers.

Really no one has any sympathy for you. Any that we did has gone by the behaviour of your pathetic coaches / parents after the fact.
Cheated? Yes having a volunteer trainer on the bench gave them I’m unfair advantage and none of those games would’ve been won without him 😂😂😂😂😂
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Yes kids need to be punished and suffer and parents who payed deserve to be punished and suffer over one persons mistake that had no impact on any game results.
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So at this point the Rattlers should get in the playoffs, so what do they actually want on top of it now? They want all their points back also so they can finish as the #3 seed and face North Stars in round 1 of playoffs? North Stars already eliminated them from their early bird tourney and beat them in the regular season. So is this really the team they want to face as the #3 seed in the standings?
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Off this forum no one would say the rattlers shouldn’t have their wins back straight cowards wishing bad for kids. Hockey isn’t about you or politics it’s about the kids playing and having a fair chance.
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Guest wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2025 9:19 am Off this forum no one would say the rattlers shouldn’t have their wins back straight cowards wishing bad for kids. Hockey isn’t about you or politics it’s about the kids playing and having a fair chance.


So why do the Rattlers think they shouldn’t get any kind of penalty for what they’re calling a “mistake”? Every other team in the GTA NHL manages to register their bench properly except them. Why is that? And I’m asking seriously, not being sarcastic. They want all 14 games back, no punishment, no consequences at all? What kind of precedent does that set? So if another team forgets to register someone, can they just make a website, start a petition, and expect everything to be erased? Come on. At some point, you have to act like an adult and set an example for the kids. Own up to the mistake, take the penalty, and move on. You don’t get special treatment just because you don’t “know” how to follow the rules.
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Guest wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2025 9:19 am Off this forum no one would say the rattlers shouldn’t have their wins back straight cowards wishing bad for kids. Hockey isn’t about you or politics it’s about the kids playing and having a fair chance.



Nobody is wishing bad on the kids, if anything, people feel bad for them because the adults running this team completely failed them. But what’s the solution here? Just pretend it didn’t happen? No penalty at all for not properly registering the bench? You want all the wins back like nothing ever happened? Come on. And explain to me how a medical doctor, who should be following strict guidelines and rules in his actual profession somehow didn’t realize he needed to be registered to be on the bench. Fourteen times. Are we really gonna act like he just didn’t know? Or are we falling back on the classic excuse of “nobody trained us on how to register people”?
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Guest wrote: Tue Feb 18, 2025 8:45 am So at this point the Rattlers should get in the playoffs, so what do they actually want on top of it now? They want all their points back also so they can finish as the #3 seed and face North Stars in round 1 of playoffs? North Stars already eliminated them from their early bird tourney and beat them in the regular season. So is this really the team they want to face as the #3 seed in the standings?
MR starting a petition so they can pick whoever they want to play on the first round of playoffs. It isn't fair that GTHL dictates who they have to play and it causes too much generational trauma on the innocent children and precious parents. "Let them play... whoever they want!" Lol.
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