2011 AAA

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Re: 2011 AAA

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Guest wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 9:25 am Who is leaving VK because they didn’t play that wasn’t already leaving because of yesterday. 2 d and 2 f and 1g. I am trying to recruit kids for our team so I am wondering if I should be making calls. Do you think any of their top kids would move.
Coach is hoping both goalies leave after yesterday
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Re: 2011 AAA

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Guest wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 7:49 am
Guest wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 10:18 pm
Guest wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 9:49 pm
Guest wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 9:01 pmWhat a comeback by VK
What happened?
VK sat the irrelevants
I bet those kids are feeling great about themselves today. Atleast CS got his "mean nothing" season trophy.
For a meaningless trophy.. there were alot of kids in tears. It was a catastrophic implosion. The trophy was in their hands with 5 minutes left and they simply did not get it done. There can only be one winner and both teams are exceptional.

For JRC parents complaining about coaching… BC is a great coach and you also have an Ex NHL player on the bench, how can you say its bad coaching when the kids simply did not execute. It’s part of being a hockey player, shifting the blame to the coaches for kids panic icing the puck while up 3 goals not exactly bad coaching. It’s a lesson that everyone will learn from and grow. Vk learned a lesson about never giving up, and jrc learned about the importance of poise when you have a big lead with little time left on the clock
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Re: 2011 AAA

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Guest wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 9:35 am
Guest wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 8:11 am
Guest wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 8:00 am
Guest wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 7:49 am
Guest wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 10:18 pm
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What happened?
VK sat the irrelevants
I bet those kids are feeling great about themselves today. Atleast CS got his "mean nothing" season trophy.

Kids feel fine. Dads working the phones
Do you blame them?
Delusional dads! They go to a stacked team and get upset that their kid doesn’t play. Leave to go to another stacked team and get upset cause the kid doesn’t play. Maybe your kid ain’t what you think he is. Play at the appropriate level or the appropriate ranked team for your kid and he’ll get lots of ice time. Boom! It’s that easy. Wake up people! Stop playing the coaches and look in the mirror. The coaches job is to win hockey games.
The coach's job is to develop the players, not solely to win games. Winning should be a byproduct of good development.
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Re: 2011 AAA

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Guest wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 7:49 am
Guest wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 10:18 pm
Guest wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 9:49 pm
Guest wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 9:01 pmWhat a comeback by VK
What happened?
VK sat the irrelevants
I bet those kids are feeling great about themselves today. Atleast CS got his "mean nothing" season trophy.
Minro hockey is all about the plastic achievements.
CS quit his city snow blowing job to take on a full time hockey role.
He’s living his best life, like Barbie.
I'm a Barbie girl, in the Barbie world
Life in plastic, it's fantastic.
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Re: 2011 AAA

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What level of sport has anyone on this chat ever played that doesn’t play the best players in the most important times. That is sports, from tyke to the nhl. I am not agreeing with it but it is the reality. Coaches want to win all of them. Parents have to develop kids full stop.
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Re: 2011 AAA

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Guest wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 9:48 am
Guest wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 9:35 am
Guest wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 8:11 am
Guest wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 8:00 am
Guest wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 7:49 am
Guest wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 10:18 pm

VK sat the irrelevants
I bet those kids are feeling great about themselves today. Atleast CS got his "mean nothing" season trophy.

Kids feel fine. Dads working the phones
Do you blame them?
Delusional dads! They go to a stacked team and get upset that their kid doesn’t play. Leave to go to another stacked team and get upset cause the kid doesn’t play. Maybe your kid ain’t what you think he is. Play at the appropriate level or the appropriate ranked team for your kid and he’ll get lots of ice time. Boom! It’s that easy. Wake up people! Stop playing the coaches and look in the mirror. The coaches job is to win hockey games.
The coach's job is to develop the players, not solely to win games. Winning should be a byproduct of good development.
Don’t waste your time …… 99 % Of these parents are frustrated former nothing athletes, and these types of people think it is about winning ( mainly b/c they lost so much). They don’t understand the process, the training the development the growth and maturation….. that all comes together in becoming one of the best in the world. It is completely and utterly lost on them! So save your breath and let them go about their business of destroying any chance their kid ever had!
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Re: 2011 AAA

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Guest wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 9:54 am What level of sport has anyone on this chat ever played that doesn’t play the best players in the most important times. That is sports, from tyke to the nhl. I am not agreeing with it but it is the reality. Coaches want to win all of them. Parents have to develop kids full stop.
Parents develop the kids? What? Sure, parents can pay for extra skills sessions to help with skill development, but development in games (IQ, positioning, etc) are all on the coach. Winning over development is why Canada is starting to fall behind other countries. People that think winning is everything are fools and likely never played higher levels in sport, so they don't understand anything about proper development.
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Re: 2011 AAA

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Guest wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 9:54 am What level of sport has anyone on this chat ever played that doesn’t play the best players in the most important times. That is sports, from tyke to the nhl. I am not agreeing with it but it is the reality. Coaches want to win all of them. Parents have to develop kids full stop.
At this point, finishing U14 AAA and transitioning to U15 AAA you need ask yourself a question - Why is my kid still playing? There are a few answers
1) He wants to have fun, and after U16 its beerleagues
- then move to the midpack team where you will win some games, have like minded friends and win some mid-pack tourneys to remember (may be even some summer Canlan AA trouney - but who cares, for memories a medal is medal). The main point is - stop being obsessed about coaches, playing time, stats etc. And statistically, that's where most will end ...
2) He wants to play OHL and then have an shot at NHL draft or NCAA. Then you can honeslty answer yourself what makes a player making a draft. Being on a top team, able to win at critical times, score at critical games (not when you run-time someone in the middle of 2nd) contributes a lot to that. U16 Gthl has 2 stud teams - DMF and TT and 3 runners ups (JRC, VK and TM) in comparison to U14 (with 2 stud teams and 1 runner up) - AND these two top teams have 1/3 of the first two rounds of draft (20 players) and the 3 runners up have another third (another 20 players).
It is very likely (based on both stats, team composition, future selections and where the kids from other teams are right now) that the current U14 top teams will take the 50% of the draft in two years. For sure, a kid from Elgin may go under #1 and a kid from COW may go under #3, but its the numbers game in the end....
- So if you want to be there - get on a top team and try to fight for every second of ice you can get, and if you are not big enough, compensate with skill, grit and iq. Yes, you have to be liked by coach as well. So if you dont get that kind of treatment - consider your options - time is ticking.
3) You are certain that your kid is a 'late bloomer' and want to invest in him so he becomes a spuerstar when he is 20. Its possible, and there lots of examples like that - "pavol datsuk" is the one I like
- then dont worry about the team at all. Let him play whenever, train and hope for the best (and plan to fund it for another 6 years) - but be prepared for the outcome of echl training camp and then a stint in the second french division, where the pay is a bowl of soup and a very nice baget.

But in any case, stop complaining about top 3 orgs and the coaching. All three are different and good and have different objectives:
1) VK needs to win, to have as many players at draft as possible so his resume is built up and he can move up in the world
2) JRC needs to have players who are paying the fees at his school and winning is very important but comes second after that objectives
3) TM just needs to be in top 3 to keep reputation
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Re: 2011 AAA

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Guest wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 9:53 am
Guest wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 7:49 am
Guest wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 10:18 pm
Guest wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 9:49 pm
Guest wrote: Sat Feb 01, 2025 9:01 pmWhat a comeback by VK
What happened?
VK sat the irrelevants
I bet those kids are feeling great about themselves today. Atleast CS got his "mean nothing" season trophy.
Minro hockey is all about the plastic achievements.
CS quit his city snow blowing job to take on a full time hockey role.
He’s living his best life, like Barbie.
I'm a Barbie girl, in the Barbie world
Life in plastic, it's fantastic.
CS is not a coach, hes a recruiter. Recruiters don’t develop, they’re mercenaries and are hired to win at all costs! Don’t blame him for executing his job to perfection, blame yourself for believing his sales pitch.

You’ve made a mistake, so what? Move on and get your kid developed by improving his confidence, skills, enjoyment etc.
don’t blame CS for his shortcomings, as his zero F’s attitude, it’s what you signed up for. The plastic, it’s fantastic.

Look at the entire staff:

CS is like a famous small man just yelling at his strongest to go get them.
CP another character, no correction, just his stupid note pad probably playing hang man on it. His coaching is just moving the big guns to the front of the door.
D coach, just tells them move the puck ahead no thinking, no action.

You signed up for it, all of it. The plastic, the swag, the water cooler talk, the agents, for what??? For your child to sit on the bench and watch his teammates go past him shift after shift.
CS is not at fault, you are dad! You’re a fault for giving your kid the opportunity to benefit from a proper situation.

VK are a machine that runs on 11 10 88 19 and the future 87..
the rest of you are just there to feed the beast !
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Re: 2011 AAA

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Guest wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 10:36 am
Guest wrote: Sun Feb 02, 2025 9:54 am What level of sport has anyone on this chat ever played that doesn’t play the best players in the most important times. That is sports, from tyke to the nhl. I am not agreeing with it but it is the reality. Coaches want to win all of them. Parents have to develop kids full stop.
At this point, finishing U14 AAA and transitioning to U15 AAA you need ask yourself a question - Why is my kid still playing? There are a few answers
1) He wants to have fun, and after U16 its beerleagues
- then move to the midpack team where you will win some games, have like minded friends and win some mid-pack tourneys to remember (may be even some summer Canlan AA trouney - but who cares, for memories a medal is medal). The main point is - stop being obsessed about coaches, playing time, stats etc. And statistically, that's where most will end ...
2) He wants to play OHL and then have an shot at NHL draft or NCAA. Then you can honeslty answer yourself what makes a player making a draft. Being on a top team, able to win at critical times, score at critical games (not when you run-time someone in the middle of 2nd) contributes a lot to that. U16 Gthl has 2 stud teams - DMF and TT and 3 runners ups (JRC, VK and TM) in comparison to U14 (with 2 stud teams and 1 runner up) - AND these two top teams have 1/3 of the first two rounds of draft (20 players) and the 3 runners up have another third (another 20 players).
It is very likely (based on both stats, team composition, future selections and where the kids from other teams are right now) that the current U14 top teams will take the 50% of the draft in two years. For sure, a kid from Elgin may go under #1 and a kid from COW may go under #3, but its the numbers game in the end....
- So if you want to be there - get on a top team and try to fight for every second of ice you can get, and if you are not big enough, compensate with skill, grit and iq. Yes, you have to be liked by coach as well. So if you dont get that kind of treatment - consider your options - time is ticking.
3) You are certain that your kid is a 'late bloomer' and want to invest in him so he becomes a spuerstar when he is 20. Its possible, and there lots of examples like that - "pavol datsuk" is the one I like
- then dont worry about the team at all. Let him play whenever, train and hope for the best (and plan to fund it for another 6 years) - but be prepared for the outcome of echl training camp and then a stint in the second french division, where the pay is a bowl of soup and a very nice baget.

But in any case, stop complaining about top 3 orgs and the coaching. All three are different and good and have different objectives:
1) VK needs to win, to have as many players at draft as possible so his resume is built up and he can move up in the world
2) JRC needs to have players who are paying the fees at his school and winning is very important but comes second after that objectives
3) TM just needs to be in top 3 to keep reputation
You figured it out here…lol. Cookie cutter and you figured out the recipe. The kid playing on VK has aspirations to play in the show and the kid playing on the Reps is a future beer leaguer aspriration. I’ll bet on 99% of this 2011 age group in this chat will be in the beer league by the time they’re 22. Stats don’t lie. Enjoy the ride it’s almost over. Let the kids have fun.
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