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Guest wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2024 9:11 pm Something that I feel will have a major effect on this announcement is how many associations are going to cap the number of 'non resident' players and what will that cap be? This will only be associations well outside of the major centres I am guessing. Should associations just open it up and pick the best players available or is there some that feel home town kids deserve a spot if they are close to the abilities needed for the team they are trying out for? I only have 1 year left with my son so I am neither for or against this announcement, just curious to hear some thoughts.

I doubt they will add caps because it will defeat the purpose of open borders. Kids who are close to the G will go there if they feel it’s a better situation and the kids who don’t make the team can likewise try out for an OMhA center in return. This would allow for roster spots to be filled. Adding more teams will only make the G weaker and OMHA even further weaker and so that’s why it makes sense why they will not allow for new teams to be added.

Lots of associations get discounted ice from public rinks run by their home cities. Taxpayers aren’t going to be excited to find out their tax dollars are paying for kids from other cities. Should taxpayer funded rinks give preference to teams with local players? Should cities give up rinks? Can’t have your cake and eat it too.

this is true, i knwo our centre is between 18-20% discount, and when you spend well over 200k in ice time, that number is large.
so centres will and should be capping numbers if i am betting. ( likely around the NRP # currently ) which is more than fair.
players can leave is the biggest takeaway, but ppl are quick to forget , that "team" they want to go to , might have 5pm practice a couple days a week, and a hour + drive to get there... need the job and lifestyle to make it work.
lots of pro's and cons on this.
outside the GTHL - i am hearing way more cons than pro's.

Our son plays in gthl and has 5pm weekday practice time. Most parents have nightmare trying to get them there on time. Not just getting off work but school ends at 330 and the rink is 25-40 min drive depending on weather.

If you like having “home” games stay in OMHA. Gthl will schedule teams to play home games wherever they can stuff em in.

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2024 11:36 am

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2024 11:12 am

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2024 10:41 am

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2024 10:18 am

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2024 10:04 am

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Dec 26, 2024 11:02 pm

I doubt they will add caps because it will defeat the purpose of open borders. Kids who are close to the G will go there if they feel it’s a better situation and the kids who don’t make the team can likewise try out for an OMhA center in return. This would allow for roster spots to be filled. Adding more teams will only make the G weaker and OMHA even further weaker and so that’s why it makes sense why they will not allow for new teams to be added.

Lots of associations get discounted ice from public rinks run by their home cities. Taxpayers aren’t going to be excited to find out their tax dollars are paying for kids from other cities. Should taxpayer funded rinks give preference to teams with local players? Should cities give up rinks? Can’t have your cake and eat it too.

this is true, i knwo our centre is between 18-20% discount, and when you spend well over 200k in ice time, that number is large.
so centres will and should be capping numbers if i am betting. ( likely around the NRP # currently ) which is more than fair.
players can leave is the biggest takeaway, but ppl are quick to forget , that "team" they want to go to , might have 5pm practice a couple days a week, and a hour + drive to get there... need the job and lifestyle to make it work.
lots of pro's and cons on this.
outside the GTHL - i am hearing way more cons than pro's.

Our son plays in gthl and has 5pm weekday practice time. Most parents have nightmare trying to get them there on time. Not just getting off work but school ends at 330 and the rink is 25-40 min drive depending on weather.

If you like having “home” games stay in OMHA. Gthl will schedule teams to play home games wherever they can stuff em in.

That's not true, a team may have a few games scheduled through the season that aren't at your home rink. Even then, they are usually pretty close to where the home rink would be.

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2024 12:19 pm Org's will:
- try and host all tryouts on the same day as their direct competitor org's, thus making it very hard to shop orgs
- will all have import caps, that any board member can approve an override of
- once 1 org bypasses the import rules, all gloves and the org's nearby will toss the rule out the window
- OMHA org's will raise prices within 3 seasons (significantly) - they need all this extra to stay competitive
- require you to buy a tryout passport, weeks before tryouts start; so you need to tryout for 3 orgs, 3 passports
- ensure programs are 12 months a year; spring, summer; winter

Coaches will:
- have teams picked already in Dec
- fill the last bottom 3 spots on the team with the highest bidder
- will drive new trucks leased for the year by a bottom 1/2 players parent
- decommit/cut at tryouts that one kid to replace them with a new money man; that kid will be in tears and will scramble to find a spot to play
- be at rinks every night all over the area looking at players; send the money man to find the parents and recruit the kids they want
- confirm kids are 12 month players and not doing other sports; no cottage; not vacations

Parents will:
- decommit at the last moment
- blast team and coaches once they find out their kid is not returning
- want hockey 12 months a year
- complain hockey is often
- complain prices have skyrocketed
- remind everyone that there are no kids from their kids school/area that are on the team



Please someone help keep the list going!

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2024 12:28 pm

Pretty much covered it. What is a tryout passport though?

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2024 12:19 pm Org's will:
- try and host all tryouts on the same day as their direct competitor org's, thus making it very hard to shop orgs
- will all have import caps, that any board member can approve an override of
- once 1 org bypasses the import rules, all gloves and the org's nearby will toss the rule out the window
- OMHA org's will raise prices within 3 seasons (significantly) - they need all this extra to stay competitive
- require you to buy a tryout passport, weeks before tryouts start; so you need to tryout for 3 orgs, 3 passports
- ensure programs are 12 months a year; spring, summer; winter

Coaches will:
- have teams picked already in Dec
- fill the last bottom 3 spots on the team with the highest bidder
- will drive new trucks leased for the year by a bottom 1/2 players parent
- decommit/cut at tryouts that one kid to replace them with a new money man; that kid will be in tears and will scramble to find a spot to play
- be at rinks every night all over the area looking at players; send the money man to find the parents and recruit the kids they want
- confirm kids are 12 month players and not doing other sports; no cottage; not vacations

Parents will:
- decommit at the last moment
- blast team and coaches once they find out their kid is not returning
- want hockey 12 months a year
- complain hockey is often
- complain prices have skyrocketed
- remind everyone that there are no kids from their kids school/area that are on the team



Please someone help keep the list going!

Guest wrote: ↑Fri Dec 27, 2024 3:22 pm All the orgs are meeting next month to make decision on import quota. If the limit is not increased and stays at 4 for AAA the open borders policy removes all the paperwork required but will not truly allow the benefit of open borders.