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play AA and stop chasing the extra A.

Its the parents who let their kid play on TRW that are to blame. A losing tier 2 NYHL team who keeps half the kids. The parents all chased that extra A so they could tell their friends "my kids plays AAA". They all knew what this season would look like and if not they're just plain dumb. I feel for the kids but the parents are 100% to blame.

It is not the parents fault, It is not the kids fault. It is not the coaches fault. They are all entering first year of fully organized hockey. If anything it is a slight blame on TRW Board. They should know if team is competitive enough to operate at the AAA level. From what I know the TRW Board is a strong one, very diverse representation. The big issue is that G has not stepped in and 'convened' appropriately. This could mean moving TRW to AA (i get it very complex) or this could mean moving a couple of players around within existing teams to ensure more competitive games happen. You cannot have back to back 14-1 scores in Game 20/21 of the regular season. This is absolutely insane. It is a horrible horrible year to live through and so many of you don't get it.

It is probably harder on the parents egos than the kids.

You knew what you were getting into. Watching your team through 3 games now, it is clear some kids are improving, and some have not. I am willing to bet those kids that are improving are seeking additional training and the others that are not improving are being left behind. That is on the parents.

Sorry .. never was it talked about that we were going to get our asses whipped 14-1 in Games 20/21 of the season. The 'gap' in talent was going to close and competitive games were going to start happening by Game 10. Really that is not important, the important thing is to have the league work on a solution. Teams should not be running up the score .. that is the most obvious step. No more goals after 5-0.
As far as 'extra' training .. what does this mean?? We are on the ice 4x/week which is plenty.

I'm anything but a fan of the GTHL leadership but this is not their issue. The parents and coaches if they have any eyes at all must have been able to see these kids were not up to the AAA standard yet moved forward. It happens almost every season, particularly at the U9 level, but parents still go down that path. Moving players around is pure folly, this is not a convened house league. I wouldn't enter a league where my happy kid on the 4th place team is told he's going to the basement to help them be more competitive. Ridiculous! You have 3 levels of competition for a reason. If you can't handle the consequences that's on you not the league or other teams.

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Guest wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 6:37 pm Sunday morning a u10 skate at Chesswood, AA kids from VP, NYK, NT and a bunch of AAA kids from WW, TT MM, MW, YSE and BJC. Does anyone know which team it was? Thought maybe TM, or VK?
The AA kids were significantly less skilled.

What time?

It’s Bullsh$t. Just stirring the pot.

VK is going to be worse then they already are this year. Nobody wants to play for CJ and take a back seat to DO who has no sense of the game and just tries to go end to end from the point. VK drops down and REPS elevate next year.

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Guest wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:46 am

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:48 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 3:14 pm

Its the parents who let their kid play on TRW that are to blame. A losing tier 2 NYHL team who keeps half the kids. The parents all chased that extra A so they could tell their friends "my kids plays AAA". They all knew what this season would look like and if not they're just plain dumb. I feel for the kids but the parents are 100% to blame.

It is not the parents fault, It is not the kids fault. It is not the coaches fault. They are all entering first year of fully organized hockey. If anything it is a slight blame on TRW Board. They should know if team is competitive enough to operate at the AAA level. From what I know the TRW Board is a strong one, very diverse representation. The big issue is that G has not stepped in and 'convened' appropriately. This could mean moving TRW to AA (i get it very complex) or this could mean moving a couple of players around within existing teams to ensure more competitive games happen. You cannot have back to back 14-1 scores in Game 20/21 of the regular season. This is absolutely insane. It is a horrible horrible year to live through and so many of you don't get it.

It is probably harder on the parents egos than the kids.

You knew what you were getting into. Watching your team through 3 games now, it is clear some kids are improving, and some have not. I am willing to bet those kids that are improving are seeking additional training and the others that are not improving are being left behind. That is on the parents.

Sorry .. never was it talked about that we were going to get our asses whipped 14-1 in Games 20/21 of the season. The 'gap' in talent was going to close and competitive games were going to start happening by Game 10. Really that is not important, the important thing is to have the league work on a solution. Teams should not be running up the score .. that is the most obvious step. No more goals after 5-0.
As far as 'extra' training .. what does this mean?? We are on the ice 4x/week which is plenty.

I'm anything but a fan of the GTHL leadership but this is not their issue. The parents and coaches if they have any eyes at all must have been able to see these kids were not up to the AAA standard yet moved forward. It happens almost every season, particularly at the U9 level, but parents still go down that path. Moving players around is pure folly, this is not a convened house league. I wouldn't enter a league where my happy kid on the 4th place team is told he's going to the basement to help them be more competitive. Ridiculous! You have 3 levels of competition for a reason. If you can't handle the consequences that's on you not the league or other teams.

Agreed.

And if your kid isn't one of the ones improving, then 4x a week isn't enough. Not all kids start the season at the same level, you need to do more to catch up. Again on the parents.

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Guest wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2025 9:11 am

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Guest wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 8:51 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 6:37 pm Sunday morning a u10 skate at Chesswood, AA kids from VP, NYK, NT and a bunch of AAA kids from WW, TT MM, MW, YSE and BJC. Does anyone know which team it was? Thought maybe TM, or VK?
The AA kids were significantly less skilled.

What time?

It’s Bullsh$t. Just stirring the pot.

VK is going to be worse then they already are this year. Nobody wants to play for CJ and take a back seat to DO who has no sense of the game and just tries to go end to end from the point. VK drops down and REPS elevate next year.

Some of them are already shopping around.

The team I don't get is TT. Lots of money, sponsorship, EL training them, and they can barely beat TRW. I don't see the improvement with that group.

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Sorry, that’s on TRW. You’re in the AAA loop, you need to know the level of competition when you start. If you can’t do your job and build a more competitive team that’s on you. Don’t ask your opponent to adjust for your incompetence. Take it as a learning lesson and build for the future. Sorry if that sounds harsh but welcome to the real world.

You are missing the point. The kids have not won a game all year. 22 losses in a row, it is brutal. It is hard enough to motivate kids/families with such a losing streak and now you rub it in with 14-1 wins? The learning lesson had already happen 20 times prior to these 14-1 scores. This is not the real world .. this is youth hockey and 10 year old hockey at that. It is not fun losing 14-1.

1000% the families are good people too (at least the ones I know). I feel for them. We went through it last year too though not quite as bad.

Have some empathy and stop pumping up the score this isn’t a tournament.

Work on shit like it’s a practice. I don’t disagree. If it’s U13 and up go nuts but these are still little kids. Remember, many still sleep with stuffed animals.

play AA and stop chasing the extra A.

Its the parents who let their kid play on TRW that are to blame. A losing tier 2 NYHL team who keeps half the kids. The parents all chased that extra A so they could tell their friends "my kids plays AAA". They all knew what this season would look like and if not they're just plain dumb. I feel for the kids but the parents are 100% to blame.

It is not the parents fault, It is not the kids fault. It is not the coaches fault. They are all entering first year of fully organized hockey. If anything it is a slight blame on TRW Board. They should know if team is competitive enough to operate at the AAA level. From what I know the TRW Board is a strong one, very diverse representation. The big issue is that G has not stepped in and 'convened' appropriately. This could mean moving TRW to AA (i get it very complex) or this could mean moving a couple of players around within existing teams to ensure more competitive games happen. You cannot have back to back 14-1 scores in Game 20/21 of the regular season. This is absolutely insane. It is a horrible horrible year to live through and so many of you don't get it.

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Guest wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 1:21 pm How do the Nats go from beating JRC to losing to NYR? They are the most inconsistent team I’ve ever seen.

Exceptional coaching.

Nats were down 4 kids when they played Jrc. 3 of those players are cancers to the team and with them on the ice Nats won't get a win against the top teams. also coach cares way too much about what the parents will say instead of playing to win.

I spoke to the Nats coach tonight, not a stupid guy by any means, Nats will be a go to team for many kids if they are not already full for next year. How do you blame a guy who's been threatened by parents to call the league cause their kids dont see the ice when they don't deserve it anyways.

Considering some of the less skilled less hardworking kids they are currently carrying and having the output they are having , I'd say the coaching and program is what people are drawn to , (at least those of us that know or have played the game) that's what peaked my interest in calling.

I've played the game at higher levels then 99% of the non athletic people on here and if you understand it you know there is only a small few teams that are worth it

NATS
JRC
DMF

The rest are a just taking your money

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Guest wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:48 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 3:14 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:28 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:06 am

Guest wrote: ↑Tue Jan 07, 2025 11:03 am
You are missing the point. The kids have not won a game all year. 22 losses in a row, it is brutal. It is hard enough to motivate kids/families with such a losing streak and now you rub it in with 14-1 wins? The learning lesson had already happen 20 times prior to these 14-1 scores. This is not the real world .. this is youth hockey and 10 year old hockey at that. It is not fun losing 14-1.

1000% the families are good people too (at least the ones I know). I feel for them. We went through it last year too though not quite as bad.

Have some empathy and stop pumping up the score this isn’t a tournament.

Work on shit like it’s a practice. I don’t disagree. If it’s U13 and up go nuts but these are still little kids. Remember, many still sleep with stuffed animals.

play AA and stop chasing the extra A.

Its the parents who let their kid play on TRW that are to blame. A losing tier 2 NYHL team who keeps half the kids. The parents all chased that extra A so they could tell their friends "my kids plays AAA". They all knew what this season would look like and if not they're just plain dumb. I feel for the kids but the parents are 100% to blame.

It is not the parents fault, It is not the kids fault. It is not the coaches fault. They are all entering first year of fully organized hockey. If anything it is a slight blame on TRW Board. They should know if team is competitive enough to operate at the AAA level. From what I know the TRW Board is a strong one, very diverse representation. The big issue is that G has not stepped in and 'convened' appropriately. This could mean moving TRW to AA (i get it very complex) or this could mean moving a couple of players around within existing teams to ensure more competitive games happen. You cannot have back to back 14-1 scores in Game 20/21 of the regular season. This is absolutely insane. It is a horrible horrible year to live through and so many of you don't get it.

You sound like you are part of Wings or know someone who is.

Rumours swirling around rinks and on chats that coach has quit after being attached by a parent.
Any truth to that story?

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2025 12:51 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2025 12:40 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2025 12:33 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2025 12:05 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2025 11:46 am

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Jan 08, 2025 10:48 am

It is not the parents fault, It is not the kids fault. It is not the coaches fault. They are all entering first year of fully organized hockey. If anything it is a slight blame on TRW Board. They should know if team is competitive enough to operate at the AAA level. From what I know the TRW Board is a strong one, very diverse representation. The big issue is that G has not stepped in and 'convened' appropriately. This could mean moving TRW to AA (i get it very complex) or this could mean moving a couple of players around within existing teams to ensure more competitive games happen. You cannot have back to back 14-1 scores in Game 20/21 of the regular season. This is absolutely insane. It is a horrible horrible year to live through and so many of you don't get it.

It is probably harder on the parents egos than the kids.

You knew what you were getting into. Watching your team through 3 games now, it is clear some kids are improving, and some have not. I am willing to bet those kids that are improving are seeking additional training and the others that are not improving are being left behind. That is on the parents.

Sorry .. never was it talked about that we were going to get our asses whipped 14-1 in Games 20/21 of the season. The 'gap' in talent was going to close and competitive games were going to start happening by Game 10. Really that is not important, the important thing is to have the league work on a solution. Teams should not be running up the score .. that is the most obvious step. No more goals after 5-0.
As far as 'extra' training .. what does this mean?? We are on the ice 4x/week which is plenty.

I'm anything but a fan of the GTHL leadership but this is not their issue. The parents and coaches if they have any eyes at all must have been able to see these kids were not up to the AAA standard yet moved forward. It happens almost every season, particularly at the U9 level, but parents still go down that path. Moving players around is pure folly, this is not a convened house league. I wouldn't enter a league where my happy kid on the 4th place team is told he's going to the basement to help them be more competitive. Ridiculous! You have 3 levels of competition for a reason. If you can't handle the consequences that's on you not the league or other teams.

Agreed.

And if your kid isn't one of the ones improving, then 4x a week isn't enough. Not all kids start the season at the same level, you need to do more to catch up. Again on the parents.

Agreed. Every team is on the ice 4 times a week at a minimum. If you are that far behind then the only way to begin to close the gap is more training, individually and collectively. Doing what everyone is doing isn't going to help. Sorry, again that's on the parents.