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Not going to comment on who is good and who isn't, but any dumbass knows that GAA and Save % are stupid stats and really stupid stats at this age. You really think that they GAA for Titans would be materially different if they changed the goalie? You think JRC's GAA would change a ton if you changed the goalie? GAA is almost entirely a team stat, no one looks at GAA to compare goalies.

Not a goalie dad .. thank god .. but I've got to agree with this.

Also agree. JRC or DMF goalie could be worst in the league and it wouldn’t matter, they would still have the best stats.

Welcome to primary age hockey.

Any coach that recruits goalies based on if the goalie's TEAM finished first or second is an idiot.

So, we are a good team and this is the problem with stats. One goalie has a higher SVG% but also a higher GAA (he gets more shots for some reason), and that same goalie also WINS more games. The goalie that wins less "looks" better to me, even though he wins less. The goalie that wins less, is also not a great team-mate, when his partner loses he is the happiest guy in the arena. The other goalie is mad if the team loses, even if he was the backup.

The point is, stats really don't matter, and it's an incredibly hard position to evaluate at this age. Choose a good teammate and a goalie who likes the process, it's a long lonely road back there.

100%. Non-crazy goalie parents and good goalie partner go way further than thinking some kid is slightly better than another at this age.

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He's not that far off, all you got to do is score 7 goals and you have a chance.

Not going to comment on who is good and who isn't, but any dumbass knows that GAA and Save % are stupid stats and really stupid stats at this age. You really think that they GAA for Titans would be materially different if they changed the goalie? You think JRC's GAA would change a ton if you changed the goalie? GAA is almost entirely a team stat, no one looks at GAA to compare goalies.

Lol. You're telling me that if you separate out the stats for the starting goalie and and stats for the backup goalie, they would be exactly the same? When you do that, you will see that GAA and SV% actually do matter.

And yes, I think it would make a difference. A better goalie might not help a team WIN the game, but they will lower the team's GA, even with the crappiest D infront of him. Duh.

Rebels goalie for instance.

Do the Rebels have one or two? I can see a Rebels vs. TRW game on Dec 12 and another on Dec 13. If they have back to back, they probably took turns. The first game Rebels won 5:1, the second game the Rebels won 8:5. Maybe I'm wrong, but these seem like two different goalies playing with wildly different GAs against the same team in back to back games. Or, it's one goalie and he was sh*t tired for the second game.

You tell me. Are Rebels rocking one or two goalies?

They have 1. Congratulations, you have disproven your own theory.

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Guest wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2025 11:51 am

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2025 10:28 am

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 6:00 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 4:20 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 4:11 pm

Not a goalie dad .. thank god .. but I've got to agree with this.

Also agree. JRC or DMF goalie could be worst in the league and it wouldn’t matter, they would still have the best stats.

Welcome to primary age hockey.

Any coach that recruits goalies based on if the goalie's TEAM finished first or second is an idiot.

So, we are a good team and this is the problem with stats. One goalie has a higher SVG% but also a higher GAA (he gets more shots for some reason), and that same goalie also WINS more games. The goalie that wins less "looks" better to me, even though he wins less. The goalie that wins less, is also not a great team-mate, when his partner loses he is the happiest guy in the arena. The other goalie is mad if the team loses, even if he was the backup.

The point is, stats really don't matter, and it's an incredibly hard position to evaluate at this age. Choose a good teammate and a goalie who likes the process, it's a long lonely road back there.

100%. Non-crazy goalie parents and good goalie partner go way further than thinking some kid is slightly better than another at this age.

I'm gonna break up this kumbaya session...there are some AAA goalies this year that are TERRIBLE. Letting in shots from far away that they see all the way. No excuse.

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Guest wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2025 12:16 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2025 11:51 am

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2025 10:28 am

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 6:00 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 4:20 pm

Also agree. JRC or DMF goalie could be worst in the league and it wouldn’t matter, they would still have the best stats.

Welcome to primary age hockey.

Any coach that recruits goalies based on if the goalie's TEAM finished first or second is an idiot.

So, we are a good team and this is the problem with stats. One goalie has a higher SVG% but also a higher GAA (he gets more shots for some reason), and that same goalie also WINS more games. The goalie that wins less "looks" better to me, even though he wins less. The goalie that wins less, is also not a great team-mate, when his partner loses he is the happiest guy in the arena. The other goalie is mad if the team loses, even if he was the backup.

The point is, stats really don't matter, and it's an incredibly hard position to evaluate at this age. Choose a good teammate and a goalie who likes the process, it's a long lonely road back there.

100%. Non-crazy goalie parents and good goalie partner go way further than thinking some kid is slightly better than another at this age.

I'm gonna break up this kumbaya session...there are some AAA goalies this year that are TERRIBLE. Letting in shots from far away that they see all the way. No excuse.

Curious, do they just get moved around to other AAA teams or they drop to AA?

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2025 9:23 am

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 6:06 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 5:57 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 5:54 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 4:06 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 3:53 pm
He's not that far off, all you got to do is score 7 goals and you have a chance.

Not going to comment on who is good and who isn't, but any dumbass knows that GAA and Save % are stupid stats and really stupid stats at this age. You really think that they GAA for Titans would be materially different if they changed the goalie? You think JRC's GAA would change a ton if you changed the goalie? GAA is almost entirely a team stat, no one looks at GAA to compare goalies.

Lol. You're telling me that if you separate out the stats for the starting goalie and and stats for the backup goalie, they would be exactly the same? When you do that, you will see that GAA and SV% actually do matter.

And yes, I think it would make a difference. A better goalie might not help a team WIN the game, but they will lower the team's GA, even with the crappiest D infront of him. Duh.

Rebels goalie for instance.

Do the Rebels have one or two? I can see a Rebels vs. TRW game on Dec 12 and another on Dec 13. If they have back to back, they probably took turns. The first game Rebels won 5:1, the second game the Rebels won 8:5. Maybe I'm wrong, but these seem like two different goalies playing with wildly different GAs against the same team in back to back games. Or, it's one goalie and he was sh*t tired for the second game.

You tell me. Are Rebels rocking one or two goalies?

They have 1. Congratulations, you have disproven your own theory.

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Guest wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2025 9:23 am

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 6:06 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 5:57 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 5:54 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Wed Jan 15, 2025 4:06 pm

Not going to comment on who is good and who isn't, but any dumbass knows that GAA and Save % are stupid stats and really stupid stats at this age. You really think that they GAA for Titans would be materially different if they changed the goalie? You think JRC's GAA would change a ton if you changed the goalie? GAA is almost entirely a team stat, no one looks at GAA to compare goalies.

Lol. You're telling me that if you separate out the stats for the starting goalie and and stats for the backup goalie, they would be exactly the same? When you do that, you will see that GAA and SV% actually do matter.

And yes, I think it would make a difference. A better goalie might not help a team WIN the game, but they will lower the team's GA, even with the crappiest D infront of him. Duh.

Rebels goalie for instance.

Do the Rebels have one or two? I can see a Rebels vs. TRW game on Dec 12 and another on Dec 13. If they have back to back, they probably took turns. The first game Rebels won 5:1, the second game the Rebels won 8:5. Maybe I'm wrong, but these seem like two different goalies playing with wildly different GAs against the same team in back to back games. Or, it's one goalie and he was sh*t tired for the second game.

You tell me. Are Rebels rocking one or two goalies?

They have 1. Congratulations, you have disproven your own theory.

Actually they have 2, dumbass

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2025 1:26 pm Not at u10 lol. They def only have 1.

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2025 1:57 pm

Guest wrote: ↑Thu Jan 16, 2025 1:26 pm Not at u10 lol. They def only have 1.

Yes at U10 lol.

6 – TEAMS

6.1 – Composition of Teams

(a) Each Team entered to play in the League in the categories of ’A’, ‘AA’, or ‘AAA’ must register a certified coach (as per Regulation 7.11), a certified Trainer (as per Regulation 7.12) and the following minimum number of Legitimate Players (as defined in Regulation 1):

This requirement applies before the first regular season game date for all Teams in the U10 to U16 age groups and October 15 for all Teams in the U17, U18 and U21 age groups. Each Team that has registered the required minimum number of Legitimate Players as of November 16 in any season shall be deemed to have that number of Legitimate Players registered for the balance of the Season.

(b) Teams participating in OHF, Regional or National Championships must have at least 15 registered players, two of whom must be goaltenders. Any Team that does not have 15 Legitimate players, including two goaltenders, registered by no later than January 10 will be ineligible to qualify for any of these events.