2009 GTHL AA West

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Guest wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 3:22 pm
Again, can't speak to MR's case specifically, I'm not privy to their details. In our case, we had a player who accidently wasn't registered at beginning of season through a clerical error. He was a member of the team since tyke. Our manager noticed the name was absent the first few games and his name was manually added to the game sheet. This same sheet is signed off on by the GTHL admin team. They never noticed the issue either. We eventually did. The point being that the admin people at the GTHL office have some negligence in these situations as they are ultimately the ones tasked with making sure teams are compliant. I guess I'd have to ask in this situation with MR, what was the competitive advantage or risk to the team having a doctor on the bench who was not officially registered properly? The whole point of the rule is a) to prevent teams getting a competitive advantage by rostering ringers and b) having unqualified people on the bench. We agree the rule was broken here, but I've seen no evidence that a or b was in play. Perhaps there is more to this, but on the surface this looks like a case of fastening a thumbtack with a sledgehammer.
How do you differentiate between between a), b), and stupid? Anyone can make the stupid case plausibly.
Guest wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 9:02 pm
THE G HAS FOLLOWED THE RULES TO A T?? That's the biggest joke of them all.

Anyone know that there are EXPLICIT rules on how protests need to be filed?

I'll give you a head start - it's Rule 15.8- and it says that protests have to be submitted to not just the GTHL Exec Dir, but to BOTH organizations, and within 48 hours of the game.

The RULES go on to say that the resdpondent has 96 hours to submit a defense.

The Game was Dec 1st, and the first notice that either organization got was on Dec 9th when the initial discipline was handed down.

No notice was given, no submission of defense was allowed.

The Rules that G are following to a T should have made the protest inadmissible and invalid right from the start. The ED himself handled this whole thing without even paying any attention to his own mandatory process.

Protests cost $100. Was that paid? Who knows.

By the RULES, rhe GTHL effed it all up before any decision was made.

That was ALL brought to light in the appeal hearing, and boy was the ED embarrassed in front of his own panel. So much so that he lashed out with a completely unreasonable and unjustified 16 game default decision.

Was the trainer in question at all those games? No.

Was there evidence considered before canceling half the season? No.

Thats why 2 wins were given back.

The whole thing is a joke, and the rules a sham.

If the G knew their own rules, things would have been sorted when the Rattlers came calling for registration advice in September, and were misled into a situation they believed to be all right, and operates under with out any indication from the G from refs, from other teams - nobody.

But - at the end of the day, it's the kids who ought to pay the price for all the adults who can't take responsibility.

Let's be clear. The Rattlers Organization, team officials and parents are not looking to get off scott free. But it's the adults who are responsible, and should be accountable. The kids should just be playing hockey, and getting ready for the playoffs.

The GTHL is the only one here claiming ZERO responsibility and washing their hands of everyone else.
The manager is here.

Ya, I actually have a lot of confidence the G followed their rules, their not messing around putting themselves in jeopardy. But whatever, lets say you're right. Dude, you guys shouldn't have f'd around, it's on you and you're kids pay the price. Not Allowed you. Straight up.

I hope they make the playoffs and get deep.
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Are the mislead parents paying for a fixer site and going media seeing the reality yet? Your staff pooched the coo'ch, ask questions.
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14 games parents. Hell lets say the G got it wrong and it was only 7. X games, your staff puts this guys on the bench without putting him on the game sheet. You got screwed.
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Guest wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 1:37 am Are the mislead parents paying for a fixer site and going media seeing the reality yet? Your staff pooched the coo'ch, ask questions.
Someone gave this parent group horrible advice on the best way to try to get this resolved. What a disaster these last few days have been. Still for the boys sake I hope they get in playoffs.
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Guest wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 10:32 pm
Guest wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 6:49 pm
Guest wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 5:16 pm
Guest wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 5:02 pm So what's the update today? All that noise yesterday, anyone hearing if it's making a difference and G gonna change anything?



D.o.n.a.l.d T.r.u.m.p signed their petition.
Yep. DT of the Tigers trying to make their petition look false so as to hang on to their UNEARNED playoff spot.ST kids bullying MR while half the team is trying to get on MR next year. You guys are a joke. And VP... the universe doesn't revolve around you and, sorry, no one is jealous of you.


You sound jealous of the VP’s. Sounds like you were a player that was cut from the team. I hear you’re a bench warmer now. :lol:
We followed the rules and have a competent group of adults at the helm. Why do we have to get punished also? We earned that playoff spot. Stupidity doesn't get you far does it? Maybe next year if you have learned your lesson.
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Best case scenario for everyone is MR beats WML tonight (99% likely) and HVS loses to MNS Sunday (75% likely), and then MR clinches playoffs regardless so that's no longer an issue about which team should be in playoffs. Then it's just a less controversial decision for G to decide where to seed MR in playoffs. But at least all 8 playoff teams can say they legitimately qualified regardless of any penalties or forfeits or whatever.
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Guest wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 2:04 pm VP’s will win and then hopefully the Rattlers will go away for a little bit.
Lets see what happens when the VP lose in the first round.

Then we will see a masterclass in blame everyone else and the G did them dirty too.

:roll:
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Re: 2009 GTHL AA West

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Guest wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 10:32 pm
Guest wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 6:49 pm
Guest wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 5:16 pm
Guest wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 5:02 pm So what's the update today? All that noise yesterday, anyone hearing if it's making a difference and G gonna change anything?



D.o.n.a.l.d T.r.u.m.p signed their petition.
Yep. DT of the Tigers trying to make their petition look false so as to hang on to their UNEARNED playoff spot.ST kids bullying MR while half the team is trying to get on MR next year. You guys are a joke. And VP... the universe doesn't revolve around you and, sorry, no one is jealous of you.


You sound jealous of the VP’s. Sounds like you were a player that was cut from the team. I hear you’re a bench warmer now. :lol:
Narcissist VP parent needs some mental help. Why VP thinks the whole hockey universe revolves around them. I hope MR makes the playoffs and shoves a puck down your throat. Parents like you make hockey suck.
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Re: 2009 GTHL AA West

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Guest wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 10:54 am
Guest wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 10:32 pm
Guest wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 6:49 pm
Guest wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 5:16 pm
Guest wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 5:02 pm So what's the update today? All that noise yesterday, anyone hearing if it's making a difference and G gonna change anything?



D.o.n.a.l.d T.r.u.m.p signed their petition.
Yep. DT of the Tigers trying to make their petition look false so as to hang on to their UNEARNED playoff spot.ST kids bullying MR while half the team is trying to get on MR next year. You guys are a joke. And VP... the universe doesn't revolve around you and, sorry, no one is jealous of you.


You sound jealous of the VP’s. Sounds like you were a player that was cut from the team. I hear you’re a bench warmer now. :lol:
Narcissist VP parent needs some mental help. Why VP thinks the whole hockey universe revolves around them. I hope MR makes the playoffs and shoves a puck down your throat. Parents like you make hockey suck.
Keep it classy :).
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Guest wrote: Fri Feb 14, 2025 10:19 am
Guest wrote: Thu Feb 13, 2025 2:04 pm VP’s will win and then hopefully the Rattlers will go away for a little bit.
Lets see what happens when the VP lose in the first round.

Then we will see a masterclass in blame everyone else and the G did them dirty too.

:roll:


Hilarious fantasy but not going to happen.
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