2015 AAA

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I heard one of the girls on WW got an nil offer from Wisconsin. Pretty crazy to be getting those already.

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1000% the families are good people too (at least the ones I know). I feel for them. We went through it last year too though not quite as bad.

Have some empathy and stop pumping up the score this isn’t a tournament.

Work on shit like it’s a practice. I don’t disagree. If it’s U13 and up go nuts but these are still little kids. Remember, many still sleep with stuffed animals.

play AA and stop chasing the extra A.

Its the parents who let their kid play on TRW that are to blame. A losing tier 2 NYHL team who keeps half the kids. The parents all chased that extra A so they could tell their friends "my kids plays AAA". They all knew what this season would look like and if not they're just plain dumb. I feel for the kids but the parents are 100% to blame.

It is not the parents fault, It is not the kids fault. It is not the coaches fault. They are all entering first year of fully organized hockey. If anything it is a slight blame on TRW Board. They should know if team is competitive enough to operate at the AAA level. From what I know the TRW Board is a strong one, very diverse representation. The big issue is that G has not stepped in and 'convened' appropriately. This could mean moving TRW to AA (i get it very complex) or this could mean moving a couple of players around within existing teams to ensure more competitive games happen. You cannot have back to back 14-1 scores in Game 20/21 of the regular season. This is absolutely insane. It is a horrible horrible year to live through and so many of you don't get it.

You sound like you are part of Wings or know someone who is.

Rumours swirling around rinks and on chats that coach has quit after being attached by a parent.
Any truth to that story?

I hate it when someone attaches me.

lol....I missed that error.

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Sunday morning a u10 skate at Chesswood, AA kids from VP, NYK, NT and a bunch of AAA kids from WW, TT MM, MW, YSE and BJC. Does anyone know which team it was? Thought maybe TM, or VK?
The AA kids were significantly less skilled.

What time?

It’s Bullsh$t. Just stirring the pot.

VK is going to be worse then they already are this year. Nobody wants to play for CJ and take a back seat to DO who has no sense of the game and just tries to go end to end from the point. VK drops down and REPS elevate next year.

Some of them are already shopping around.

The team I don't get is TT. Lots of money, sponsorship, EL training them, and they can barely beat TRW. I don't see the improvement with that group.

EL not training them unfortunately. EC is a piece of work preventing EL and WW working with their kids and the rest of the team. TT is a dumpster fire of ownership ego.

The story I heard

WW is so focused on his own son that EC got sick of it and booted him from the ice. This wasn't an EC specific thing the other parents felt the same way.

EL is a my way or the highway kind of guy and EC wasn't having it.

Time will tell who was right, EC, EL or WW.

Apparently a private school sponsorship paid all the kids registrations. TT still can't win anything.

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What time?

It’s Bullsh$t. Just stirring the pot.

VK is going to be worse then they already are this year. Nobody wants to play for CJ and take a back seat to DO who has no sense of the game and just tries to go end to end from the point. VK drops down and REPS elevate next year.

Some of them are already shopping around.

The team I don't get is TT. Lots of money, sponsorship, EL training them, and they can barely beat TRW. I don't see the improvement with that group.

EL not training them unfortunately. EC is a piece of work preventing EL and WW working with their kids and the rest of the team. TT is a dumpster fire of ownership ego.

The story I heard

WW is so focused on his own son that EC got sick of it and booted him from the ice. This wasn't an EC specific thing the other parents felt the same way.

EL is a my way or the highway kind of guy and EC wasn't having it.

Time will tell who was right, EC, EL or WW.

Apparently a private school sponsorship paid all the kids registrations. TT still can't win anything.

Can we get EC's career record as a GM? My guess is it is 25 Wins, 1,455 Losses and 2 ties.

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It is not the parents fault, It is not the kids fault. It is not the coaches fault. They are all entering first year of fully organized hockey. If anything it is a slight blame on TRW Board. They should know if team is competitive enough to operate at the AAA level. From what I know the TRW Board is a strong one, very diverse representation. The big issue is that G has not stepped in and 'convened' appropriately. This could mean moving TRW to AA (i get it very complex) or this could mean moving a couple of players around within existing teams to ensure more competitive games happen. You cannot have back to back 14-1 scores in Game 20/21 of the regular season. This is absolutely insane. It is a horrible horrible year to live through and so many of you don't get it.

It is probably harder on the parents egos than the kids.

You knew what you were getting into. Watching your team through 3 games now, it is clear some kids are improving, and some have not. I am willing to bet those kids that are improving are seeking additional training and the others that are not improving are being left behind. That is on the parents.

Sorry .. never was it talked about that we were going to get our asses whipped 14-1 in Games 20/21 of the season. The 'gap' in talent was going to close and competitive games were going to start happening by Game 10. Really that is not important, the important thing is to have the league work on a solution. Teams should not be running up the score .. that is the most obvious step. No more goals after 5-0.
As far as 'extra' training .. what does this mean?? We are on the ice 4x/week which is plenty.

I'm anything but a fan of the GTHL leadership but this is not their issue. The parents and coaches if they have any eyes at all must have been able to see these kids were not up to the AAA standard yet moved forward. It happens almost every season, particularly at the U9 level, but parents still go down that path. Moving players around is pure folly, this is not a convened house league. I wouldn't enter a league where my happy kid on the 4th place team is told he's going to the basement to help them be more competitive. Ridiculous! You have 3 levels of competition for a reason. If you can't handle the consequences that's on you not the league or other teams.

Agreed.

And if your kid isn't one of the ones improving, then 4x a week isn't enough. Not all kids start the season at the same level, you need to do more to catch up. Again on the parents.

Agreed. Every team is on the ice 4 times a week at a minimum. If you are that far behind then the only way to begin to close the gap is more training, individually and collectively. Doing what everyone is doing isn't going to help. Sorry, again that's on the parents.

Agree that this is just not a league issue. TRW is frankly competitive at a number of other age groups (including being a finalist at U16 Silver Stick). Not an organization thing. This is a result of a coach who wasn't able to attract enough kids at this age group. Only way to close the gap is to get better kids into the system and this should happen because of open borders. Parents on this team also need to really take a hard look at whether or not they are willing (or even believe it is appropriate) for their kids to be on the ice 4+ times a week from now through September of next year to try and maintain the gap let alone close it. The biggest fallacy is parents thinking that if they just go to practice then the gap will close. You need to be outworking everyone else who is on the ice multiple times a week to see a difference, or alternatively, you need to get better kids at the outset. This is unfortunately the reality of the G.

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It is probably harder on the parents egos than the kids.

You knew what you were getting into. Watching your team through 3 games now, it is clear some kids are improving, and some have not. I am willing to bet those kids that are improving are seeking additional training and the others that are not improving are being left behind. That is on the parents.

Sorry .. never was it talked about that we were going to get our asses whipped 14-1 in Games 20/21 of the season. The 'gap' in talent was going to close and competitive games were going to start happening by Game 10. Really that is not important, the important thing is to have the league work on a solution. Teams should not be running up the score .. that is the most obvious step. No more goals after 5-0.
As far as 'extra' training .. what does this mean?? We are on the ice 4x/week which is plenty.

I'm anything but a fan of the GTHL leadership but this is not their issue. The parents and coaches if they have any eyes at all must have been able to see these kids were not up to the AAA standard yet moved forward. It happens almost every season, particularly at the U9 level, but parents still go down that path. Moving players around is pure folly, this is not a convened house league. I wouldn't enter a league where my happy kid on the 4th place team is told he's going to the basement to help them be more competitive. Ridiculous! You have 3 levels of competition for a reason. If you can't handle the consequences that's on you not the league or other teams.

Agreed.

And if your kid isn't one of the ones improving, then 4x a week isn't enough. Not all kids start the season at the same level, you need to do more to catch up. Again on the parents.

Agreed. Every team is on the ice 4 times a week at a minimum. If you are that far behind then the only way to begin to close the gap is more training, individually and collectively. Doing what everyone is doing isn't going to help. Sorry, again that's on the parents.

It's an unfortunate situation. I have empathy for the kids. Woke solutions aren't going to work here. This is AAA hockey. The tough resilient kids will build character.

Good to hear some empathy .. thank you. However, AAA hockey should mean 'leadership' when it comes to hockey. I would think teams should/parents be looking out for all kids in the loop and not just their kid or their team. I am starting to wonder about how much loyalty the families have towards a team or creating competitive balance in a loop?

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Sorry .. never was it talked about that we were going to get our asses whipped 14-1 in Games 20/21 of the season. The 'gap' in talent was going to close and competitive games were going to start happening by Game 10. Really that is not important, the important thing is to have the league work on a solution. Teams should not be running up the score .. that is the most obvious step. No more goals after 5-0.
As far as 'extra' training .. what does this mean?? We are on the ice 4x/week which is plenty.

I'm anything but a fan of the GTHL leadership but this is not their issue. The parents and coaches if they have any eyes at all must have been able to see these kids were not up to the AAA standard yet moved forward. It happens almost every season, particularly at the U9 level, but parents still go down that path. Moving players around is pure folly, this is not a convened house league. I wouldn't enter a league where my happy kid on the 4th place team is told he's going to the basement to help them be more competitive. Ridiculous! You have 3 levels of competition for a reason. If you can't handle the consequences that's on you not the league or other teams.

Agreed.

And if your kid isn't one of the ones improving, then 4x a week isn't enough. Not all kids start the season at the same level, you need to do more to catch up. Again on the parents.

Agreed. Every team is on the ice 4 times a week at a minimum. If you are that far behind then the only way to begin to close the gap is more training, individually and collectively. Doing what everyone is doing isn't going to help. Sorry, again that's on the parents.

It's an unfortunate situation. I have empathy for the kids. Woke solutions aren't going to work here. This is AAA hockey. The tough resilient kids will build character.

Good to hear some empathy .. thank you. However, AAA hockey should mean 'leadership' when it comes to hockey. I would think teams should/parents be looking out for all kids in the loop and not just their kid or their team. I am starting to wonder about how much loyalty the families have towards a team or creating competitive balance in a loop?

What exactly do you mean by "competitive balance" and "looking out for all the kids"? Are you seriously suggesting that players should be randomly scattered across teams just to make everyone feel better? Is this about fostering competition, or are you pushing some misguided agenda of equality of outcome? Let me guess, you are a retarded self identifying "progressive".

Let’s talk about TRW: they have absolutely no business being in AAA. They’re a bottom-tier team that wouldn’t even rank in the top three in AA. This isn’t a knock on the kids—they’re just 9 years old and doing their best. The real blame lies with their parents, whose delusional choices have set them up for failure.

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Sorry .. never was it talked about that we were going to get our asses whipped 14-1 in Games 20/21 of the season. The 'gap' in talent was going to close and competitive games were going to start happening by Game 10. Really that is not important, the important thing is to have the league work on a solution. Teams should not be running up the score .. that is the most obvious step. No more goals after 5-0.
As far as 'extra' training .. what does this mean?? We are on the ice 4x/week which is plenty.

I'm anything but a fan of the GTHL leadership but this is not their issue. The parents and coaches if they have any eyes at all must have been able to see these kids were not up to the AAA standard yet moved forward. It happens almost every season, particularly at the U9 level, but parents still go down that path. Moving players around is pure folly, this is not a convened house league. I wouldn't enter a league where my happy kid on the 4th place team is told he's going to the basement to help them be more competitive. Ridiculous! You have 3 levels of competition for a reason. If you can't handle the consequences that's on you not the league or other teams.

Agreed.

And if your kid isn't one of the ones improving, then 4x a week isn't enough. Not all kids start the season at the same level, you need to do more to catch up. Again on the parents.

Agreed. Every team is on the ice 4 times a week at a minimum. If you are that far behind then the only way to begin to close the gap is more training, individually and collectively. Doing what everyone is doing isn't going to help. Sorry, again that's on the parents.

It's an unfortunate situation. I have empathy for the kids. Woke solutions aren't going to work here. This is AAA hockey. The tough resilient kids will build character.

Good to hear some empathy .. thank you. However, AAA hockey should mean 'leadership' when it comes to hockey. I would think teams should/parents be looking out for all kids in the loop and not just their kid or their team. I am starting to wonder about how much loyalty the families have towards a team or creating competitive balance in a loop?

Hey Pinko, You worry about your kid and I'll worry about mine.

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The G is the most competitive minor hockey league in the world. That’s a simple fact. There may be other competitive teams or an individual age group here or there, but top to bottom the G is globally recognized as the gold standard. We may not like some of what goes on, or the league leadership or lack thereof but when you enter the top echelon of the GTHL you should know it’s going to be tough and not necessarily fair. This is not a place for participation medals or ‘friendlies’. Tough to hear but parents should know and do their homework before setting their kids up for embarrassment. Look in the mirror , it’s on you.

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Sorry .. never was it talked about that we were going to get our asses whipped 14-1 in Games 20/21 of the season. The 'gap' in talent was going to close and competitive games were going to start happening by Game 10. Really that is not important, the important thing is to have the league work on a solution. Teams should not be running up the score .. that is the most obvious step. No more goals after 5-0.
As far as 'extra' training .. what does this mean?? We are on the ice 4x/week which is plenty.

I'm anything but a fan of the GTHL leadership but this is not their issue. The parents and coaches if they have any eyes at all must have been able to see these kids were not up to the AAA standard yet moved forward. It happens almost every season, particularly at the U9 level, but parents still go down that path. Moving players around is pure folly, this is not a convened house league. I wouldn't enter a league where my happy kid on the 4th place team is told he's going to the basement to help them be more competitive. Ridiculous! You have 3 levels of competition for a reason. If you can't handle the consequences that's on you not the league or other teams.

Agreed.

And if your kid isn't one of the ones improving, then 4x a week isn't enough. Not all kids start the season at the same level, you need to do more to catch up. Again on the parents.

Agreed. Every team is on the ice 4 times a week at a minimum. If you are that far behind then the only way to begin to close the gap is more training, individually and collectively. Doing what everyone is doing isn't going to help. Sorry, again that's on the parents.

It's an unfortunate situation. I have empathy for the kids. Woke solutions aren't going to work here. This is AAA hockey. The tough resilient kids will build character.

Good to hear some empathy .. thank you. However, AAA hockey should mean 'leadership' when it comes to hockey. I would think teams should/parents be looking out for all kids in the loop and not just their kid or their team. I am starting to wonder about how much loyalty the families have towards a team or creating competitive balance in a loop?

someone needs to lead your lefty azz into the kitchen