And that is what the data is on bud ! You did not grow up in a sport environment did you?Guest wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 2:09 pmsports science data? how about actual data on players who made it? go get the data on every regular player in the NHL under the age of 25 and see how they spent their summers.Guest wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 2:00 pm….and exactly opposite to all the sports science data. Do you ever use google to research this stuff or you rather fly by your pants like trump all the time?Guest wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 1:52 pmthat is the exact advice i would expect from a 'has been' former nhl'er. the game has changed. these have beens still think its okay to have a beer and a dart after the game. go ask the young nhl stars of today if they took the summers off to play baseball/soccer. no shot! they were on the ice year round. a week here and there for vacation or rest but thats it. they played secondary sports recreationally but hockey was always priority and never stopped from 6 years old until draft day. thats what it takes to make it in todays nhl. i'm talking about the 95%. there are always exceptions so dont respond with that.Guest wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 1:36 pmJust to be clear with some of you extremely delusional ppl. My son who trains with current Ohl kids during the summer and is being trained by a former NHLer is encouraged to continue playing his summer sport and reduce the ice time.
Better yet how did you make it to the top?
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He never said completely off the ice idiotGuest wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 1:52 pmthat is the exact advice i would expect from a 'has been' former nhl'er. the game has changed. these have beens still think its okay to have a beer and a dart after the game. go ask the young nhl stars of today if they took the summers off to play baseball/soccer. no shot! they were on the ice year round. a week here and there for vacation or rest but thats it. they played secondary sports recreationally but hockey was always priority and never stopped from 6 years old until draft day. thats what it takes to make it in todays nhl. i'm talking about the 95%. there are always exceptions so dont respond with that.Guest wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 1:36 pmJust to be clear with some of you extremely delusional ppl. My son who trains with current Ohl kids during the summer and is being trained by a former NHLer is encouraged to continue playing his summer sport and reduce the ice time.
Reduced ice while playing other sports is best for growth not just physically but mentally too.
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My kid beats off multiple times a day for wrist and forearm strength
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Well the Leafs captain is pretty good and he played travel baseball all the way through his life until he went to the NTDP. I would say multi sport turned out ok for him…Guest wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 1:52 pmthat is the exact advice i would expect from a 'has been' former nhl'er. the game has changed. these have beens still think its okay to have a beer and a dart after the game. go ask the young nhl stars of today if they took the summers off to play baseball/soccer. no shot! they were on the ice year round. a week here and there for vacation or rest but thats it. they played secondary sports recreationally but hockey was always priority and never stopped from 6 years old until draft day. thats what it takes to make it in todays nhl. i'm talking about the 95%. there are always exceptions so dont respond with that.Guest wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 1:36 pmJust to be clear with some of you extremely delusional ppl. My son who trains with current Ohl kids during the summer and is being trained by a former NHLer is encouraged to continue playing his summer sport and reduce the ice time.
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Easy with trust science stuff. You still trusting the science you idiot?Guest wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 2:09 pmsports science data? how about actual data on players who made it? go get the data on every regular player in the NHL under the age of 25 and see how they spent their summers.Guest wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 2:00 pm….and exactly opposite to all the sports science data. Do you ever use google to research this stuff or you rather fly by your pants like trump all the time?Guest wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 1:52 pmthat is the exact advice i would expect from a 'has been' former nhl'er. the game has changed. these have beens still think its okay to have a beer and a dart after the game. go ask the young nhl stars of today if they took the summers off to play baseball/soccer. no shot! they were on the ice year round. a week here and there for vacation or rest but thats it. they played secondary sports recreationally but hockey was always priority and never stopped from 6 years old until draft day. thats what it takes to make it in todays nhl. i'm talking about the 95%. there are always exceptions so dont respond with that.Guest wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 1:36 pmJust to be clear with some of you extremely delusional ppl. My son who trains with current Ohl kids during the summer and is being trained by a former NHLer is encouraged to continue playing his summer sport and reduce the ice time.
Better yet how did you make it to the top?
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Agreed. The clown who posted about training with OHL players has no fcking idea what he's talking about and he clearly made all of that up. Get a life.Guest wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 1:52 pmthat is the exact advice i would expect from a 'has been' former nhl'er. the game has changed. these have beens still think its okay to have a beer and a dart after the game. go ask the young nhl stars of today if they took the summers off to play baseball/soccer. no shot! they were on the ice year round. a week here and there for vacation or rest but thats it. they played secondary sports recreationally but hockey was always priority and never stopped from 6 years old until draft day. thats what it takes to make it in todays nhl. i'm talking about the 95%. there are always exceptions so dont respond with that.Guest wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 1:36 pmJust to be clear with some of you extremely delusional ppl. My son who trains with current Ohl kids during the summer and is being trained by a former NHLer is encouraged to continue playing his summer sport and reduce the ice time.
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Read some sport development books posted in the past 10 years. Sport specialization has been prevalent in Canada and is almost exclusively the way things are done in Europe and has proven benefits over multi sport training. Stop thinking that lacrosse will make your kid a good hockey player just because Gretzky played lacrosse. Welcome to the modern age. Play other sports if you want, but it's really not helping.
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Is pocket pool considered an elite sport ?Guest wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 8:46 pm Read some sport development books posted in the past 10 years. Sport specialization has been prevalent in Canada and is almost exclusively the way things are done in Europe and has proven benefits over multi sport training. Stop thinking that lacrosse will make your kid a good hockey player just because Gretzky played lacrosse. Welcome to the modern age. Play other sports if you want, but it's really not helping.
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Here you go bud, see below (and for the record I was pro and multi sport)Guest wrote: ↑Tue Feb 11, 2025 8:46 pm Read some sport development books posted in the past 10 years. Sport specialization has been prevalent in Canada and is almost exclusively the way things are done in Europe and has proven benefits over multi sport training. Stop thinking that lacrosse will make your kid a good hockey player just because Gretzky played lacrosse. Welcome to the modern age. Play other sports if you want, but it's really not helping.
Source - The Sports Institute
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Hopes at odds with reality
Unfortunately, athletes’ and parents’ expectations are vastly at odds with reality.
The math is fairly straightforward and unforgiving. There are close to 8 million athletes playing in high school. There are fewer than half a million slots for athletes on college teams. That means, on average, about seven out of 100 high school athletes make a college team. Perhaps one in 100 receives a scholarship. And even fewer make it to the Olympics or pros.
Despite the achievements of prodigies such as Tiger Woods and Mikaela Shiffrin, there is surprisingly scant evidence that the majority of athletes who achieve elite status do so because they specialized at an early age. Indeed, most of the evidence supports the contrary view.
Data collected over the past few years—including the first studies in professional athletes—suggest that early specialization is not necessary to achieve elite levels of performance. Compared to other athletes, athletes competing at the highest levels more often postpone specialization until later in adolescence and compete in more sports during high school.
Professional football: According to Tracking Football, a scouting service that keeps tabs on high school and college athletes, 88% of NFL draft picks in 2018 and 2017 were multisport athletes in high school. (The other sports most often played by football players were track and field and basketball.)
Professional hockey: In a 2019 survey of professional and college ice hockey players, the average age of specialization was 14. “Early pediatric sports specialization before age 12 years is not necessary for athletic success in professional and collegiate ice hockey,” the Penn State authors concluded. (Other sports most often played by hockey players were soccer, baseball and lacrosse.)
Professional basketball: Although it isn’t clear when professional basketball players begin to specialize, most focused exclusively on basketball by the time they reach high school. Those who played additional sports in high school seem to better endure the rigors of the NBA. Compared to their single-sport teammates, NBA first-round draft picks who were multisport athletes suffered fewer major injuries in the NBA, played in more games and had longer careers.
NCAA Division I: Several studies have shown that Division I athletes usually played multiple sports as children, and specialized later. “Across a large variety of sports, only a minority of Division I collegiate athletes specialized in a single sport as an early adolescent,” noted Columbia University researchers in a 2019 paper.
International. Danish researchers looked at characteristics that might differentiate elite competitors from non-elite athletes in international sports. Both groups of athletes played multiple sports. However, near-elite athletes devoted more time to training in their main sport when they were younger, before age 15. The elite athletes ramped up training in their main sport after age 18. “The optimal career path is not only a question of amount of training hours but also a question of when training regimes occur,” the Danish researchers concluded.
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