2014 AAA

[Guest]

While everyone is trying to figure out what the shuffling of the deck chairs is going to look like come April 20 (and worrying about so-and-so's hairline, or a supposed daddy fist fight at practice) nobody is talking about the open borders and player movement that is inevitable.

The current G teams draw from approx 4 million residents to fill a total of 12 AAA teams.
4 of which are good,
4 of which are mediocre,
4 of which are not good,
give or take.
All rosters totalling approx 180 players.

After the OHF weekend the G will see a significant impact by the simple fact that families and players from surrounding cities and centres will be making their way to the G. For context, at quick glance there are approx 20 AAA teams/centres right next door (easily within a 60 minute drive of a G team, many much closer than that). Each of those teams have 17 players. So approx 350 players in this age group will be thinking about joining this league - because it's the best after all, isn't it... Those teams/centres draw from an additional 5 million residents - approx. (see breakdown below)

Now of course most will stay in their home centres or perhaps may only look to change jerseys with their closest neighbouring centre, but to think that 10-20% of the player talent in the surrounding centres won't find their way to the G would be silly. 2-3 players coming in per team (on average) shouldn't be surprising, sould it?

You atleast can't ignore the math, the potential impact may not be as fun, but it will be more shocking than so-and-so's dad hooking up with so-and-so's mom in the parking lot at Westwood...

If this does happen (which it will), then the G gets much better top to bottom, over time, and a true meritocracy it will be.

The Simple Math:
Ajax‑Pickering Raiders – 228,000 residents
Barrie Colts – 255,000 residents
Brantford 99ers – 97,000 residents
Burlington Eagles – 186,000 residents
Cambridge Hawks – 138,000 residents
Central Ontario Wolves – 75,000 residents
Credit River Capitals – 750,000 residents
Guelph Gryphons – 143,000 residents
Hamilton Steel – 750,000 residents
Halton Hurricanes – 170,000 residents
Kitchener Jr. Rangers – 256,000 residents
Markham Waxers – 340,000 residents
North Shore Whitecaps – 265,000 residents
Niagara North Starts – 133,000 residents
Oakville Rangers – 213,000 residents
Peterborough Petes – 83,000 residents
Quinte Red Devils – 180,000 residents
Southern Tier Admirals – 120,000 residents
Waterloo Wolves – 137,000 residents
Whitby Wildcats – 130,000 residents
York Simcoe Express – 200,000 residents

- Ajax-Pickering Raiders AAA players couldn't compete at G level A, so nobody on that team is taking a G AAA spot.
- Those who wanted to leave COW for the G already did last year. Looks at DMF.
- CRC couldn't compete with G level players, one kid is desperately trying to crack the reps or majors and hasn't yet, others don't bother trying.
- If you're a parent who will drive every day from Niagara or Peterborough to Toronto, you have no life.
- Quinte won't leave - they are a solid unit who can compete with the G AAA, they don't need to play in the G.
- Halton - can't compete
- Oakville - absolutely can't compete.
- Whitby are all insane. Once a Wildcat, always a Wildcat. Plus Kris Versteeg basically owns them, so gives all his 'KLEVR' kids a free spot. Maybe some AA players try to crack the G because they aren't on Versteeg's side, so don't play the level they should.
- Southern Tier - again, if the parents put in the drive, that's crazy.

Impact unlikely to be as big as you pretend you know. And - TM coaches hairlines are ridiculous and deserve ridicule, and your wife is the one having a train run on her in the Westwood parking lot.

the point has nothing to do with teams in particular. I don't think anyone is suggesting that full teams can or would compete against a Top 5 (except for maybe QRD and STA.
the point has to do with 350 AAA players from 20 different teams/centres are now fair game to enter the fray.

perhaps the better question is, how many players from each of these 20ish centres are legitimate additions to Top 5 teams?
the answer is *many*
there's atleast 10 of these teams with Brick kids, and twice as many that have players of the same or similar calibre.

there's no pretending to know anything. it's not April 21st yet. it's just looking at the simple math, added to the generalized inclination of insanely competitive AAA parents.

and yes, personal attacks are funny, but not nearly as impactful as the above.

All I know is that I'm f_u_cking your wife on April 21st, twice

lol, you have all that extra time as a Wolverine I guess.

[Guest]

While everyone is trying to figure out what the shuffling of the deck chairs is going to look like come April 20 (and worrying about so-and-so's hairline, or a supposed daddy fist fight at practice) nobody is talking about the open borders and player movement that is inevitable.

The current G teams draw from approx 4 million residents to fill a total of 12 AAA teams.
4 of which are good,
4 of which are mediocre,
4 of which are not good,
give or take.
All rosters totalling approx 180 players.

After the OHF weekend the G will see a significant impact by the simple fact that families and players from surrounding cities and centres will be making their way to the G. For context, at quick glance there are approx 20 AAA teams/centres right next door (easily within a 60 minute drive of a G team, many much closer than that). Each of those teams have 17 players. So approx 350 players in this age group will be thinking about joining this league - because it's the best after all, isn't it... Those teams/centres draw from an additional 5 million residents - approx. (see breakdown below)

Now of course most will stay in their home centres or perhaps may only look to change jerseys with their closest neighbouring centre, but to think that 10-20% of the player talent in the surrounding centres won't find their way to the G would be silly. 2-3 players coming in per team (on average) shouldn't be surprising, sould it?

You atleast can't ignore the math, the potential impact may not be as fun, but it will be more shocking than so-and-so's dad hooking up with so-and-so's mom in the parking lot at Westwood...

If this does happen (which it will), then the G gets much better top to bottom, over time, and a true meritocracy it will be.

The Simple Math:
Ajax‑Pickering Raiders – 228,000 residents
Barrie Colts – 255,000 residents
Brantford 99ers – 97,000 residents
Burlington Eagles – 186,000 residents
Cambridge Hawks – 138,000 residents
Central Ontario Wolves – 75,000 residents
Credit River Capitals – 750,000 residents
Guelph Gryphons – 143,000 residents
Hamilton Steel – 750,000 residents
Halton Hurricanes – 170,000 residents
Kitchener Jr. Rangers – 256,000 residents
Markham Waxers – 340,000 residents
North Shore Whitecaps – 265,000 residents
Niagara North Starts – 133,000 residents
Oakville Rangers – 213,000 residents
Peterborough Petes – 83,000 residents
Quinte Red Devils – 180,000 residents
Southern Tier Admirals – 120,000 residents
Waterloo Wolves – 137,000 residents
Whitby Wildcats – 130,000 residents
York Simcoe Express – 200,000 residents

- Ajax-Pickering Raiders AAA players couldn't compete at G level A, so nobody on that team is taking a G AAA spot.
- Those who wanted to leave COW for the G already did last year. Looks at DMF.
- CRC couldn't compete with G level players, one kid is desperately trying to crack the reps or majors and hasn't yet, others don't bother trying.
- If you're a parent who will drive every day from Niagara or Peterborough to Toronto, you have no life.
- Quinte won't leave - they are a solid unit who can compete with the G AAA, they don't need to play in the G.
- Halton - can't compete
- Oakville - absolutely can't compete.
- Whitby are all insane. Once a Wildcat, always a Wildcat. Plus Kris Versteeg basically owns them, so gives all his 'KLEVR' kids a free spot. Maybe some AA players try to crack the G because they aren't on Versteeg's side, so don't play the level they should.
- Southern Tier - again, if the parents put in the drive, that's crazy.

Impact unlikely to be as big as you pretend you know. And - TM coaches hairlines are ridiculous and deserve ridicule, and your wife is the one having a train run on her in the Westwood parking lot.

the point has nothing to do with teams in particular. I don't think anyone is suggesting that full teams can or would compete against a Top 5 (except for maybe QRD and STA.
the point has to do with 350 AAA players from 20 different teams/centres are now fair game to enter the fray.

perhaps the better question is, how many players from each of these 20ish centres are legitimate additions to Top 5 teams?
the answer is *many*
there's atleast 10 of these teams with Brick kids, and twice as many that have players of the same or similar calibre.

there's no pretending to know anything. it's not April 21st yet. it's just looking at the simple math, added to the generalized inclination of insanely competitive AAA parents.

and yes, personal attacks are funny, but not nearly as impactful as the above.

All I know is that I'm f_u_cking your wife on April 21st, twice

So now I’m doing the simple math and I think I have a generalized inclination that you will f*ck his wife at least twice!!


I’ll have to disagree with him, though I think personal attacks clearly are impactful!

You are correct - it will definitely be "impactful f_u_cking"

[Guest]

Can a TM parent please confirm this, I heard that your trainer the Young gentleman is actually ML‘s boyfriend and that’s why ML comes on your bench when they drive together?

Is this true? I feel like I’ve seen them holding hands.

[Guest]

While everyone is trying to figure out what the shuffling of the deck chairs is going to look like come April 20 (and worrying about so-and-so's hairline, or a supposed daddy fist fight at practice) nobody is talking about the open borders and player movement that is inevitable.

The current G teams draw from approx 4 million residents to fill a total of 12 AAA teams.
4 of which are good,
4 of which are mediocre,
4 of which are not good,
give or take.
All rosters totalling approx 180 players.

After the OHF weekend the G will see a significant impact by the simple fact that families and players from surrounding cities and centres will be making their way to the G. For context, at quick glance there are approx 20 AAA teams/centres right next door (easily within a 60 minute drive of a G team, many much closer than that). Each of those teams have 17 players. So approx 350 players in this age group will be thinking about joining this league - because it's the best after all, isn't it... Those teams/centres draw from an additional 5 million residents - approx. (see breakdown below)

Now of course most will stay in their home centres or perhaps may only look to change jerseys with their closest neighbouring centre, but to think that 10-20% of the player talent in the surrounding centres won't find their way to the G would be silly. 2-3 players coming in per team (on average) shouldn't be surprising, sould it?

You atleast can't ignore the math, the potential impact may not be as fun, but it will be more shocking than so-and-so's dad hooking up with so-and-so's mom in the parking lot at Westwood...

If this does happen (which it will), then the G gets much better top to bottom, over time, and a true meritocracy it will be.

The Simple Math:
Ajax‑Pickering Raiders – 228,000 residents
Barrie Colts – 255,000 residents
Brantford 99ers – 97,000 residents
Burlington Eagles – 186,000 residents
Cambridge Hawks – 138,000 residents
Central Ontario Wolves – 75,000 residents
Credit River Capitals – 750,000 residents
Guelph Gryphons – 143,000 residents
Hamilton Steel – 750,000 residents
Halton Hurricanes – 170,000 residents
Kitchener Jr. Rangers – 256,000 residents
Markham Waxers – 340,000 residents
North Shore Whitecaps – 265,000 residents
Niagara North Starts – 133,000 residents
Oakville Rangers – 213,000 residents
Peterborough Petes – 83,000 residents
Quinte Red Devils – 180,000 residents
Southern Tier Admirals – 120,000 residents
Waterloo Wolves – 137,000 residents
Whitby Wildcats – 130,000 residents
York Simcoe Express – 200,000 residents

- Ajax-Pickering Raiders AAA players couldn't compete at G level A, so nobody on that team is taking a G AAA spot.
- Those who wanted to leave COW for the G already did last year. Looks at DMF.
- CRC couldn't compete with G level players, one kid is desperately trying to crack the reps or majors and hasn't yet, others don't bother trying.
- If you're a parent who will drive every day from Niagara or Peterborough to Toronto, you have no life.
- Quinte won't leave - they are a solid unit who can compete with the G AAA, they don't need to play in the G.
- Halton - can't compete
- Oakville - absolutely can't compete.
- Whitby are all insane. Once a Wildcat, always a Wildcat. Plus Kris Versteeg basically owns them, so gives all his 'KLEVR' kids a free spot. Maybe some AA players try to crack the G because they aren't on Versteeg's side, so don't play the level they should.
- Southern Tier - again, if the parents put in the drive, that's crazy.

Impact unlikely to be as big as you pretend you know. And - TM coaches hairlines are ridiculous and deserve ridicule, and your wife is the one having a train run on her in the Westwood parking lot.

This has nervous parent written all over it.

[Guest]

While everyone is trying to figure out what the shuffling of the deck chairs is going to look like come April 20 (and worrying about so-and-so's hairline, or a supposed daddy fist fight at practice) nobody is talking about the open borders and player movement that is inevitable.

The current G teams draw from approx 4 million residents to fill a total of 12 AAA teams.
4 of which are good,
4 of which are mediocre,
4 of which are not good,
give or take.
All rosters totalling approx 180 players.

After the OHF weekend the G will see a significant impact by the simple fact that families and players from surrounding cities and centres will be making their way to the G. For context, at quick glance there are approx 20 AAA teams/centres right next door (easily within a 60 minute drive of a G team, many much closer than that). Each of those teams have 17 players. So approx 350 players in this age group will be thinking about joining this league - because it's the best after all, isn't it... Those teams/centres draw from an additional 5 million residents - approx. (see breakdown below)

Now of course most will stay in their home centres or perhaps may only look to change jerseys with their closest neighbouring centre, but to think that 10-20% of the player talent in the surrounding centres won't find their way to the G would be silly. 2-3 players coming in per team (on average) shouldn't be surprising, sould it?

You atleast can't ignore the math, the potential impact may not be as fun, but it will be more shocking than so-and-so's dad hooking up with so-and-so's mom in the parking lot at Westwood...

If this does happen (which it will), then the G gets much better top to bottom, over time, and a true meritocracy it will be.

The Simple Math:
Ajax‑Pickering Raiders – 228,000 residents
Barrie Colts – 255,000 residents
Brantford 99ers – 97,000 residents
Burlington Eagles – 186,000 residents
Cambridge Hawks – 138,000 residents
Central Ontario Wolves – 75,000 residents
Credit River Capitals – 750,000 residents
Guelph Gryphons – 143,000 residents
Hamilton Steel – 750,000 residents
Halton Hurricanes – 170,000 residents
Kitchener Jr. Rangers – 256,000 residents
Markham Waxers – 340,000 residents
North Shore Whitecaps – 265,000 residents
Niagara North Starts – 133,000 residents
Oakville Rangers – 213,000 residents
Peterborough Petes – 83,000 residents
Quinte Red Devils – 180,000 residents
Southern Tier Admirals – 120,000 residents
Waterloo Wolves – 137,000 residents
Whitby Wildcats – 130,000 residents
York Simcoe Express – 200,000 residents

- Ajax-Pickering Raiders AAA players couldn't compete at G level A, so nobody on that team is taking a G AAA spot.
- Those who wanted to leave COW for the G already did last year. Looks at DMF.
- CRC couldn't compete with G level players, one kid is desperately trying to crack the reps or majors and hasn't yet, others don't bother trying.
- If you're a parent who will drive every day from Niagara or Peterborough to Toronto, you have no life.
- Quinte won't leave - they are a solid unit who can compete with the G AAA, they don't need to play in the G.
- Halton - can't compete
- Oakville - absolutely can't compete.
- Whitby are all insane. Once a Wildcat, always a Wildcat. Plus Kris Versteeg basically owns them, so gives all his 'KLEVR' kids a free spot. Maybe some AA players try to crack the G because they aren't on Versteeg's side, so don't play the level they should.
- Southern Tier - again, if the parents put in the drive, that's crazy.

Impact unlikely to be as big as you pretend you know. And - TM coaches hairlines are ridiculous and deserve ridicule, and your wife is the one having a train run on her in the Westwood parking lot.

This has nervous parent written all over it.

I think there will be more movement into the GTHL, AA more so than AAA

[Guest]

AA willl get a lot of AAA kids

[Guest]

OMHA executives forecast that at most, 50 players from each age group will try to move to the G from their league. Of that, 25 of them will make a team. Out of this 25, 10 will return to their home centre after one year. The impact on both the OMHA and GTHL will be minimal. The vast majority of the best players are already here, thats why the G dominates the rankings in every age group. Don't expect much of a change.

[Guest]

The exodus to AA has already started. DMF cut their tiny man #61 and apparently he's headed to the Toros next year.

[Guest]

The exodus to AA has already started. DMF cut their tiny man #61 and apparently he's headed to the Toros next year.

No he didn’t! Stop talking nonsense

[Guest]

OMHA executives forecast that at most, 50 players from each age group will try to move to the G from their league. Of that, 25 of them will make a team. Out of this 25, 10 will return to their home centre after one year. The impact on both the OMHA and GTHL will be minimal. The vast majority of the best players are already here, thats why the G dominates the rankings in every age group. Don't expect much of a change.

25 is quite a lot, 2 per team, that takes a lot of spots from G kids.